Sunday 1 June 2014

Are Paper Logs REALLY Necessary in Geocaches? - OBGCP31


Join us this week for a discussion about the necessity of paper logs in Geocaches

Last Week...

Check out the Opencaching.us blog for our interview only show with The GCDoc

Whats your nemesis cache?

One of ours was Little Church by Jacaru - now archived.

Scott Berks The lonesome bridge by tnt63 GC217PN. "Spent a total of 6 hours there over many days."

SangueG 'Earnanæs, þæs wyrmes denn' by abanazar GC2VH8B "It's freaking hard! Log note only till I master one part of the route."

saxhorn Nemesis was "It's an ammo can." (GC497HJ) by Cachnut II "Found it on the 5th try. Key? What's an ammo can? Halljourneys.wordpress.com"

Because of Geocaching...

Scott Berks and DarrylW4 from

geocachingpodcast.com

geogearheads.com

chicagogeocacher.com

Feedback...

DarrylW4

"Offensiving" needs to be added the the Geocaching Lexicon.

BTW – you'd funny like that milk that's been in the fridge for the last 6 months. ;-)

Lucie Melen 

Just listened... so here is some listener feedback!  I find "another find for me" even more annoying and insulting than TFTC, because that's the automatic text on the app. They couldn't even be bothered to type anything!

From Yorkshire Yellow

Just to say I enjoyed this segment in your last podcast.

The honesty with which you spoke was touching, and I found myself with a tear in my eye at one or two points.

Although I don't suffer from depression, I do think I get a little 'down' sometimes myself, particularity in the grey winter months.  Also, most of my role at work is in essentially what is a sales environment (letting and sale of commercial property), which, if it's not going well, gets me down.

I've found that quick lunchtime cache, in the green areas in the town where I work, or, If I can manage it, on the edges of the Cotswold Hills, lifts my mood/spirits no end.

I also totally agreed/empathised with you on the 'simple pleasures' side of what you were saying - children splashing in puddles, seeing nature, etc.

I've been on an enforced 4 day working week since the start of the recession, so have been lucky enough to have one weekday a week to spend with my nearly 7yo geokid and now her nearly 3yo sister.

The times we spend together on these days, often on a short caching circuit (on which she invariably ends up riding most of it on my shoulders!) are incredibly enjoyable, and I've some precious memories from these times.

Keep up the good work on the podcast.  I'm enjoying them!

John

(Yorkshire Yellow)

Ask Doctor D...

From Yorkshire Yellow

Dear Dr Duck,

When me or the geokids swap swag in caches, we also replace what we take with something we think is of equivalent or greater value.

However, so often we see caches with, to be honest, are a load of crap in them - broken old fast food toys, soggy paper items, things which have got wet and gone rusty - you probably know what I'm talking about.

My question for you - has the concept of swag in caches had its day?

Thanks Dr Duck!

Yorkshire Yellow

PS - My thoughts on this: We will always tidy up a cache, so that the the 'finding experience' is a better one for the next cacher.  We will will often add more swag than we swap out.  If my (young) geokids are coming caching with me, then I will often try to pick a newer series of caches, where the swag is still there and hasn't had time to 'degrade', which unfortunately seems to be the way of things nowadays.

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Other News...

Geocaching.com have launched their newest stat page, the Geocaching Refer-a-Friend Page

Geocaching.com are also bringing Lab Caches in to the official stats:

Your Lab Cache finds are now more official than ever. Lab Caches are scheduled to be rolled into Geocaching find statistics  and your milestones beginning on June 3, 2014. Besides cheering, there's one other thing you might want to consider doing.

The addition of your Lab Cache finds may alter your milestones. Check now to lock-in milestones  on your Geocaching.com profile. After the update, you'll be able to use the tool to lock in a Lab Cache find as a milestone. You'll also find Lab Cache stats on your chronology and geocache types section. If you created a Lab Cache and it was logged, you'll find new stats on your owned geocaches page.

Thanks for finding a Lab Cache and helping to play a part in shaping the future of geocaching.

Sincerely, Everyone at Geocaching HQ

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Video Of The Week...

Hardest Geocache Ever? by twish1999

http://youtu.be/5rieyONff5c

Discussion...

Are paper log sheets still necessary?

Why they aren't necessary:

Technology has moved on, we can now log at GZ online or take a photo as proof and post that to the cache page

A lot of the time logs are turned to mush, so signing is a little pointless/impossible

Cache maintenance would be made much simpler without logs

Most of the appeal of Geocaching is the find, signing the log is secondary

As a cache owner I'm more interested in the online logs and photos.

How many cache owners actually cross check the paper log with the online log to make sure those who claim to have found the cache actually did?

An alternative method can be used to prove you found the cache - such as a code in the container, as seen in the LAB caches at the 2014 Kent Mega

Why they are necessary:

Signing the log is in the rules!

On the bigger caches and special locations its nice to see what people have to say in the log book

There is something a little exciting about seeing a familiar name on a log book, or even seeing that someone is out there caching the same time you are

They're essential for some Geocache types; for example Letterbox Hybrids

 

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